Hate Mail and diatribes
ADL and "BBC Watch and other racist zionist groups atacked me
here is an example http://bbcwatch.org/tag/mazin-qumsiyeh/
Just some samplings. See also Assault on Truth
From: xbenzion@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: My hometown bombed again
Date: February 19, 2001 10:22:42 AM EST
To: mbq, The_JDL-Discussion_List@yahoogroups.com, endtimes-news-events@egroups.com
Dear Mazin Qumsiyeh, Ph.D.
I am so glad that your hometown was bombed!! However, I see that your cousin was not killed. What a great pity.
You lament the fact that Sharon and Barak are leading Israel at this time. You are so lucky that you have these two guys. They see palestinians as being human beings, as do perhaps all Israelis, which is not really how I view them.
I feel that you guys should be eliminated - you are nothing but a bunch of sand kaffirs. You contribute nothing to the world. You produce nothing. Name one palestinan goods or product that you give to the world. Just one?? No, not even one can be found.
The life of a palestinian is not worth the cuttings from my toenail. You have no virtues to speak of. You are nothing - not a people, not a country, not a nation. You don't have your own language or culture, and even your anti-semitic diatribes (which is the essence of your national being) are not original. You are a pathetic bunch of weaklings.
Actually, there is one thing that you palestinians are okay for. You make good targets for Israelis who need to practice warfare conducted within towns. Your children are also good targets for Israeli sharpshooters, who need to practice their aim when firing specifically at eyes and knees. Furthermore, palestinian victims provide good training for Israeli medics, who would not know how to treat such casualties if it wasn't for the steady supply of injured "guinea pigs" that you provide.
Perhaps you guys should consider pulling out of Israel. You don't belong there, are not wanted there, and are not really having an enjoyable stay there either. You must go!
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From: planet_twilo@yahoo.com
Subject: We know the Palestinians did it
Date: September 11, 2001 10:24:48 AM EDT
If this is Pals again, I blame Israel for not wiping the low life animals
off this earth 10 months ago !!!!!!
NOW AMERICA WILL HAVE THE DIRTY JOB.
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12/3/01 From jean.patrick.necker@wanadoo.fr
YES ARABS AND MUSLIMS ARE ALL TERRORISTS !!!
AND ZION FUCKS YOU STUPID PIG....
ISRAEL, MOSSAD AND TSAHAL FUCK YOU ALL
SHARMUTOT...
REGARDS FROM YOUR MASTERS...
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From: dovidbc@onebox.com
Subject: Blither and blather
Date: January 12, 2002
You think the babblers and chatterers, including us, make history? Nonsense. History is made by nations responding to their interests - something the Jewish nation has been unable to do, until now. Our time has come and although we will stumble along the way, the end is obvious, glorious and already in sight. Spend your time playing meaningless rhetorical games if you like.
David Ben Chaim
Be strong! Be strong! May we all be strengthened!
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from Joepalestine@aussiemail.com.au 6/18/02
Dear Dr. Mazin,
We both know that there are no Muslim Palestinian peace activists. There are only murderers. The Islamoterrorism knows no human boundaries. Isn't it time you became a bomber yourself? maybe you can take your whole sorry family with you.
As for "Lies and cyber-terrorism ALWAYS backfires" It must be true. That's why you'll never have a State. You'll always be the asswipes of the Arab world. The only thing real arabs hate are Jews and Muslim palestinians.
Joe Palestine, Chairman
Jews for a Jewish palestine
You were placed on this list due to your affiliation with a Palestinian, Arab, or Islamist Hate Group. Your address was provided by CAIR or Al-awda for a small fee. Because of the minimum fee, we may not solicit funds from you. Both CAIR and Al-awda demand higher rental fees for the list for fund raising.
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10/9/02
Mazin,
You remind me a bit of Martin Luther. He was so friendly to the Jews, but when he realized he could not convert them to his point of view he turned
against them, shunned them and spit out hateful venom against them.
Stephen
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11/9/02
Mazin, I am sorry that your Qumsiyeh Courant article forced me to denounce it and you from the pulpit last night in order to expose its lies and
distortions. It was important for them to hear of your Martin Luther like attitude toward me and of your refusal to engage in a real debate i.e. one
in which you send me you mailing list and we both send them our views so they can make up their mind who is right. I can understand why you would be
afraid to expose your followers to the truth. Now, by cutting yourself off from contact with me after nearly two years, you are obviously afraid of
even exposing yourself to the truth.
Sadly,
Stephen
(Rabbi Stephen Fuchs, West Hartford sfuchs@attbi.com)
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1/21/03
Once again fuck you and die.I cannot tell you how pleased I am that your late cousin ,his wife and son were killed.We do not need people like you in AMERICA.You fucking RAGHEADS come here to EXPLOIT our country not to EMBRACE it.
I pray every night that you and every other raghead who bitch about our country but still live here shall burn in hell the rest of eternity.
FUCK YOU AND DIE
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1/30/03 from Raphael Israeli (prof at Hebrew university) msraphi@mscc.huji.ac.il
Your world of values is completely fucked up. When Israel goes into Gaza, it does it at considerable risk, in search for terroriusts (in the last
incident, 5 Hamas and 2 Islamic JIhad were killed), and that is NOT like killing haphazardly innocent people on a bus. If you can see no difference,
if you do not see the difference between civilized people who mourn their dead are are ready to do anything to bring the dead to their families, and
those evil HIzbullah who are not ready to tell the tortured families or three kidnapped soldiers, for three years, whether their loved once are dead
or alive, and that evil Lebanese government who lets a gang negotiate as if there were no government, then you wiill never be civilized yourself. If
your entire message is to count your bodies of terrorists and ignore the evil you spread in the world, then you and your nation will never emerge
from this mood of hatred that envelops you. In Israel no one ecelebrates the death of others, in the ARab world, this is what they thrive on. YOu were
animals and you will remain som
Raph
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2/3/03 asrs6319@estart.com
The only reaction - is being physically sickening after reading the so called �op-ed� published by you:�News Media Ignore Israeli Terrorism� February 2, 2004
Mazin Qumsiyeh � Shock and disbelieve.
It is hard to react when the article contains not one word of truth, deliberate distortion of history, anti Semitic accusations, justification of terror and again LIES, LIES, LIES.
But again, it is in a best traditions of the pro-Palestinian propagandists.
Mr. Epshteyn.
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4/5/03 From jdl_sea@yahoo.com
http://www.albawaba.com/news/index.php3?sid=239611&lang=e&dir=news
Report: Sharon authorizes Mossad to kill Palestinian activists in "friendly" countries
(JDL is a terrorist organization. Its "sharing of the article" with me is a threat)
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The following few messages were received (among others) after Daniel Pipes (a person who has made a career of racism against Arabs and Moslims) wrote an article titled "Professors who hate America" defaming me and Noam Chomsky and others
5/29/03 from CLTrow@aol.com
Professor,
Staff like you are the reason I regret to this day that my daughter went to Yale and graduated summa cum laude.� Her mind was filled with the radical, un-American trash that you and others like you dispense to bright but impressionable young Americans.� Fortunately, she had the good sense and set of values that enabled her to get A grade in your silly courses and to reject the entire philosophy once she left Yale.� You should consider returning to whatever Arab homeland you have if the United States is such a terrible place.� "When in Rome, do as the Romans do"� Go Home if you can not buy into this philosophy.
A disgusted parent of a fine Yale graduate.
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5/29/03 Upyourdot@aol.com
You nazi cocksucker...
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From: irwin.graulich@verizon.net
Subject: Anti-semite
Mazin
The above 2 words describe you to a tee. You are a despicable hater of America, Israel, Jews and Christians. Only elite universities today
allow sub-human garbage like you to "breed" their sick ideas. But Americans, thank God, know who and where you are and are taking action.
As a "so-called" geneticist you know that a large portion of your Palestinian Arab group has animalistic traits that belong in the jungle.
Your mother was obviously one of those individuals who slept with camels, goats and monkeys. Don't think that you can fill 18 year old
minds with your propaganda, a la Joseph Goebals. Americans will not let evil, sick individuals like you come to our great country and destroy
our Judeo-Christian ethics, simply because you have finally realized that your own religion is a total fraud. Americans are laughing at your
religion and at professors like you who couldn't make it in the real world, so they "teach." Those who can do, actually do something, unlike
you. You are a big, useless joke.
I have already registered your name with the proper government authorities, and our law firm will proceed to do a more comprehensive
check of your background and past affiliations. However, I certainly expect you to eventually meet the same fate as your hero, Adolf Hitler.
You will never change America which was built by our great Founding Fathers on the truth--Judaism and Christianity, the 2 great religions
sharing the most important ideas and values in human history.
I suggest you return immediately to wherever the hell you came from so that you can get together with your fellow vermin to idolize Osama,
Arafat, Saddam and the rest of those Nazi followers. And please, do not bring any children into this world (although I doubt you are married
because what woman would want to be with you). We do not need any more of your terrorists and teenage suicide bombers, since that is a trait
that is obviously embedded within your DNA. Do not reproduce--God forbid!
Respectfully,
Irwin N. Graulich
President
Bloch Graulich Whelan Inc.
333 Park Avenue South
New York, NY 10010
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5/29/03 sshortland@stlstaffing.com
you are a moron
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9/27/03 From: Charles Segelbaum brit18@bellsouth.net
read my lips :
The wall will stand to deny entry to the murderous palestinan homicie bomber. Israel WILL protect itself, even though anti-Jewish arabs and nazis feel that Israel should be open to another holocaust. NEVER AGAIN. You don't like the wall - tough s**t !
Oh, additionally THERE IS NO "right of return". And not ONE CENTIMETRE of holy Jewish Jerusalem to any criminal terrorist murder "state" of palestine. How stupid the arabs are. Shall Israel demand its capital in Amman or Beirut ? Of course not !! So........make� Ramleh�or� Jenin your capital.......better still, Amman because JORDAN IS PALESTINE.
GOD bless the awesome State of Israel, with Jerusalem ( forget al quds ! ) as her ETERNAL ,UNDIVIDED���capital, insh'allah
��A proud Jew
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From Charles Segelbaum brit18@bellsouth.net 9/27/2003
read my lips :
The wall will stand to deny entry to the murderous palestinan homicie bomber. Israel WILL protect itself, even though anti-Jewish arabs and nazis feel that Israel should be open to another holocaust. NEVER AGAIN. You don't like the wall - tough s**t !
Oh, additionally THERE IS NO "right of return". And not ONE CENTIMETRE of holy Jewish Jerusalem to any criminal terrorist murder "state" of palestine. How stupid the arabs are. Shall Israel demand its capital in Amman or Beirut ? Of course not !! So........make� Ramleh�or� Jenin your capital.......better still, Amman because JORDAN IS PALESTINE.
GOD bless the awesome State of Israel, with Jerusalem ( forget al quds ! ) as her ETERNAL ,UNDIVIDED���capital, insh'allah
�A proud Jew
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From Jon jondfreiler@att.net 9/29/2003
I just read your editorial in today's Register, and I was struck by its subtle tongue-twisting rhetoric. The Arabs of Palestine are merely trying a
different tactic. Warfare against the Jews didn't get them anywhere so now they are trying demography. There are at least 5 million Arab "refugees"
whom the Arabs want to return to Palestine. If Israel allows it, the country would be swamped with Arabs and Israel would cease to exist. Nice
touch. Israel ceases to exist because the Jews get pushed out into the Mediterranean and the Arabs get to glom onto all the goodies that Israel
created -- and all without a shot being fired. Instead of trying to influence Americans, why don't you and the other Arabs work to create a
paradise for yourselves instead of trying to "razia" the paradise Israel created. The Arabs don't create anything; all they do is tear down what
others have created.
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Mr. Qumsiyeh,
�� I read your article in the Jordan Times.� Did you forget that your Palestinian brothers are sending children and young adults to target civilians, woman and children and bow them to little bits?� Did you not see Palestinian TV that broadcasts videos extolling suicide bombings and sermons from mosques exhorting the masses to kill Jews and Americans?� Did you miss the glorification of suicide bombers in the press and schools?� Did you miss those murdered Palestinians who were killed by the Palestinian terrorists and had their bodies mutilated and hung in the public square as a warning to anyone who would think of a peaceful solution?� Somehow you equate checkpoint inconvenience with the intentional murder of little babies and old people at a restaurant.� Somehow you forget that not a single Arab country is a democracy or has equality for woman or allows Jews to have citizenship or has a free press and they all still ignore honor killings of woman still brutalize their own populations.� Your moral compass is completely out of whack.� How any University can employ you as a professor with you absolute lack of analytic thought is beyond me.
Seth Friedman
SethDF@aol.com 10/27/03
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From: RRNYC1998@aol.com
Date: November 3, 2003 9:17:11 PM EST
Resent-To: mazin.qumsiyeh@yale.edu
To: gabrielle.goodfellow@yale.edu
Subject: Jewish DefenseLeague
Dear Whore, as a JDL member, I saw your letter to former Jewish professor at Yale. Your a typical hypocritical leftist-communist Jew hater.
If you want to support swarthy "palestinian" terrorists, be my guest.
Your whore like your mother before you
www.jdl-ny.org
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12/2/03 Message sent by Mike Souter mjsontag@yahoo.com
You are a pathetic LOSER! Every article you write is more ridiculous than the next. It nust pain you to no end that your views have absolute NO traction in the United States and that knowledge appears to have mentally unhinged you.
Mike Souter
Link to Article :
http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/2603
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From MBenn2571@aol.com 4/18/04
HEY FOOL YEAH YOU IM A TALKING TO YOU--ISRAEL IS NUMBER ONE BABY!! HOW DO YOU LIKE THOSE APPLES SONNY?? BY THE WAY HOWS DR(?) RANTISSI DOING WITH THE 69 VIRGINS?? IS IT VERY HOT WHERE HE IS RIGHT NOW?? DID HE DROP A LOAD IN HIS PANTIES WHEN HE REALIZED THE MISSILE WAS HEADED STRAIGHT FOR HIM?? WAS HE HIT BY A STINK SEEKING MISSILE OR A HEAT SEEKING MISSILE?? CAN SHEIK YASSIN WALK NOW OR IS HE ONLY ALLOWED TO WATCH THE X RATED ACTION ?? I NEED IMMEDIATE RESPONSES TO MY VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS--THANK YOU SIR!!
-MARK
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From:"Riain Y. Barton" ��
To:"Mazin Qumsiyeh"
CC:Anti_Anti-Zionism@yahoogroups.com, "Fight Anti-Semitism" , "Green_Mtn_Jews" , "Support_Israel" , "Zionism_613"
Subject:Re: BoycottIsraeliGoods Events in the northeast
Date:Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:39:03 -0000
�Ye better stay the feck out of Vermont! We do not want anti-American TERRORISTS here, who want to overthrow our government and murder all of us "infidels"!
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5/25/04 from sgarbowit@comcast.net
You've done it again, your half assed propaganda is showing the whole world your ignorance and only support my opposition to you and your ilk.
I would like to deport every one of you scum.
Stephen Garbowit
Hamden
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From salwazy@yahoo.com 6/6/04
Eat shit and die you filthy muslim pig! May Allah command a pack of camels to shit on your head.
Responding to Article :
http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/7955
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From smbonga@yahoo.com 6/10/04
God bless Ariel Sharon. I only pray that he rids the world of the animals that call themselves Palestinians.
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From: "Riain Y. Barton" ��Add to Address Book
To:"Mazin Qumsiyeh"
CC: Anti_Anti-Zionism@yahoogroups.com, "Conservative Judaism" , "Fight-Anti-Semitism" , IDF-TzHal@yahoogroups.com, "Men_Israel" , "Men_Jewish" , "Jewish 4 Democrats" , "Zionism_613"
Subject: Fw: Apartheid Walls, Moore, Kerry, and Israel
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:53:32 -0000
Dear Fellow Zionists:�
Do you know why we cannot counter the Boycott Israeli Campaign?
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The Arab do not produce anything that we or others can boycott, except for OIL, which was made by nature not by them.
However, every time they write to anyone, we can write the same people letting them know the truth. The truth that Mazin Qumsiyeh is a liar, a terrorist, a murderer, and an anti-American who wishes to destroy the U.S. Constitution and democracy everywhere.
Use the sources below to fight these fascist bastards.
Shalom,
Riain Yehuda Barton
Burlington, VT, USA 05401
----- Original Message -----
From: Mazin Qumsiyeh
Sent: 05 July 2004 02:19
Subject: Apartheid Walls, Moore, Kerry, and Israel
According to Israeli sources (Arutz news), Prime Minister Ariel Sharon stated that the Israeli court�s decision to ask for rerouting segments of the wall near Jerusalem �strengthens Israel�s position ahead of the expected verdict by the International Court of Justice in The Hague which will be announcing its verdict regarding Israel�s right to construct the fence. �� When taken with the attempts at distraction by talk of future withdrawal from Gaza and combined with the court�s earlier ruling that Israel has a right to confiscate Palestinian lands and create hardships for them as long as Israeli military commanders indicate it is related to security, this statement from Sharon suggests that Israel will proceed with its apartheid wall since it now has the stamp of approval from both George Bush, John Kerry, and congress. This monstrous project to impoverish and isolate the Palestinians in several Ghettos is a war crime and a crime against humanity.� All people of conscience must protest and raise their voice. Pericles (430 B.C.) observed that �Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you. �� Indeed all politics impacts our personal lives.� Take our annual subsidy to Israel wich amounts to 30% of all foreign aid by the US Congress.� It is estimated that Israel cost US taxpayers over $250 billion so far.� This is a conservative figure and does include ill will generated because of our support of apartheid, idecreased trade with over 1 billion Muslims around the world etc. Now ofcourse the US government has become complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity by endorsing and funding the ethnic cleansing of Palestinie (as in House Resolution 460 supporting bantustanization of Palestinains and rejection of such internationally recognized inalienable rights like the righst of refugees to return to their homes and lands).
Palestinian member of the Israeli Knesset Azmi Bishara went on an open-ended hunger strike to bring attention to this unfolding human tragedy and break the silence (see http://www.qumsiyeh.org/bisharagoesonhungerstrike/ ).� It is possible to do several things in your area (collectively we do make a difference, silence is complicity):
- Mock wall demonstrations and flyering pointing out US government hypocrisy and support for apartheid and segregation
- Writing to and visiting media outlets (print, TV, radio).� See http://al-awda.org/mediaactivism/
- Writing to, visiting, and demonstrating at elected officials offices. Contacts can be made through http://www.cflweb.org/congress_merge_.htm
- Hunger strikes, civil disobedience etc.
Now a note on Michael Moore�s �documentary� Fahrenheit 9/11 which I just saw.� It is conspicuous for what it leaves out: Israel and John Kerry.� When asked about the special relation between the US and Israel in a later interview, Moore merely said that Israel is a �democracy�! I guess he knows nothing about Israeli basic laws (he should read the chapter in my book dealing with these laws, see http://qumsiyeh.org/sharingthelandofcanaan ).� He also conveniently ignores facts like:
- Direct links between our support of Israeli apartheid, 9/11, and the illegal war on Iraq (see http://al-awda.org/thewaroniraq/ )
- The presence of Israeli Interrogators in Iraq prisons (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3863235.stm ),
- the support of leading democrats (with the exception of courageous folks like Cynthia McKinney, Dennis Kucinich, Conyers, Senator Byrd) for the same imperial policies as George Bush and his neo-conservatives
- The fact that the Saudi Royal family and other despotic regimes are dependent on US support to stay in power.
I emailed Michael Moore at mike@michaelmoore.com and urge you to do the same.
�
Mazin
http://qumsiyeh.org
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To the New Haven Register:
���� As a rabbi who believes that Israel's current policies are not only self-destructive but a violation of the highest values of the Jewish tradition, I believe that if one can get beyond his incendiary rhetoric, the description of Israel's current sins portrayed by Mazin Qumsiyeh is mostly and tragically correct. Yet those sins pale in comparison with the genocide taking place between peoples of color in Sudan, and barely matches the level of violence and denial of human rights that has been the continual fate of the people of Tibet under Chinese rule or the fate of the Kurds under Turkish rule, and the list could go on. To single out Israel for a South Africa style campaign of disinvestment, as though Israel's sins were the greatest, will not win the hearts of Americans who understand that this selective focus must be motivated by something beyond the quite reasonable desire to shift American policy from its current blind support for Ariel Sharon. Why pick incendiary tactics certain to divide those of us who oppose Sharon's policies when it would be more effective to rally forces behind the peace forces in Israel and Palestine who have recently united in support of The Geneva Accord and a fair two state solution?
Rabbi Michael Lerner
Editor, Tikkun Magazine�� Author, Healing Israel/Palestine
7/27/04
Exchange of Emails that followed
�Dear Rabbi Lerner:
Two brief comments on your biased response:
- We in America and you as an American Jew (and maybe taxpayer) fund and support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.� In fact, we are now the sole remaining country to do so (US pressures a few others and our government is pressured by the Zionist movement).�� We do not fund and support any of the other atrocities (in fact last I heard, the US is doing a lot in oil rich Kurdestan and Western Sudan where oil was just discovered and suddenly our government became interested).� We are responsible to stop our government from using our taxes to fund oppression where they do so.� This is our responsibility as US citizens.� The history of South Africa shows that divestments and boycotts are the best way to start. The history of Vietnam shows that calling our government to task works.� Blaming Sharon for "tactics" is really escapism at its best since in many other places you claim Israel is a democracy.
- I do not think it helpful nor honest on your part to claim you have some sort of a yardstick to measure which people are suffering more. Kurds and Tibetans are occupied and oppressed but neither populations suffered having 2/3rds of its population made refugees or displaced people.� Any way your "comparisons" betray your attempt to minimize the suffering of the Palestinians.� Imagine your reaction if someone responded to a call of boycott of Nazi Germany by saying that others have committed worse atrocities and we should not be singling out Germany and that this is not helpful blah blah. But wait a minute that was actually what the Zionist movement did in the late 1930s- they broke the boycott of Nazi Germany arguing against the boycott along the same lines (see Edwin Black, the Transfer Agreement).� Maybe thsi proves my point that history does indeed repeat itself (sometimes with the same players).
Mazin Qumsiyeh
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Dear Mazin Qumsiyeh,
����� I have been doing all I can to organize a movement to change US policy so that it no logner supports the policies of Ariel Sharon. I frequently challenge those who call Israel a democracy, instead insisting that it cannot be called that until it gives an equal vote to all the Palestinians under its rule in the West Bank and Gaza. We differ as to the best strategy to move forward, but you write in tones that try to make sure that I and the people I help organize are perceived by yor community not as a useful ally but as an enemy. That seems to me a rather destructive approach from a community whose powerlessness gets more and more extreme. I have analyzed this way of thinking and doing politics in my book Surplus Powerlessness--you ought to read it. But instead of trying to show you that your approach is pathological, I'll instead ask more respectfully to explain how exactly you imagine building an anti-apartheid type strategy in a country where we can't even get the Democrats to do better than endorse the Bush/Sharon agreements?� The anti-apartheid strategy faced an entirely different political reality--by the early 1980s there was noone, not even President Reagan, who supported South African apartheid. The debate was entirely about the best way to get South Africa to change its policies--not about whether those policies were legitimate. In that context, the disinvestment movement was an alternative strategy to the "constructive engagement" strategy of the Reagan administration, but everyone was united on the goal, at least in terms of what they said publicly. To end the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and to create a Palestinian state there is no agreement in the U.S.--not even among political liberals. In fact, many Palestinians themselves won't support a strategy aimed at creating a two state solution, because they want to see the elimination entirely of the State of Israel--so even those who dislike Israeli policy can't agree on a single end point about which they agree comparable to "majority rule" for South Africa (indeed, majority rule for Israel/Palestine could still cast the Palestinians in a powerlessposition before a hostile Jewish majority and keep them in refugee camps and the walled-in enclaves being built by Sharon). There is no sympathy for Palestinians even vaguely comparable to the sympath y for South African blacks. I regret that this is the case. But given that it is the case, I simply see no possible way that disinvestment or use of the South Africa analogy helps to mobilize support--rather it guarantees that people like you and me will continue to argue with each other rather than join forces to mobilize more sentiment in favor of Palestinian national self-determination. So please explain to me in political terms your strategy--not in terms of why this or that right is being denied, about which I largely agree with you, but in terms of a coherent political strategy.
Rabbi Michael Lerner
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The strategy I propose (not new but addressing many of the myths about why some think it unworkable) is laid out in details in my book. I urge you to get a copy and read it (see http://qumsiyeh.org). You may even write a thoughtful critique of it. A dialogue is not useless. In fact such a dialogue occurs in all liberation and human rights movements. I would be happy to have a public dialogue with you or others anytime and any where. I am willing to travel. I am just not so sure that such a dialogue would be fruitful using impersonal back and forth emails (but would be happy to do so if that is the only way we can talk). You may also call me at 203-785-6317.
For now let me briefly say to you: whether one agrees with one state or two state or three or no state "solutions", I fail to see any other reason other than basic tribalism to argue against divestments and boycotts (proven tools of the masses to draw attention to injustice). As for teh history of South Africa, I think you need to read more about it.� It is simply not true that there was consensus that apartheid was bad and only difference was between those calling for divestments versus those calling for "constructive engagement."� By cherry picking a small point in history (towards the last few years of Apartheid), you simply ignore the history of the 40 years preceding it (BTW, Reagan did support apartheid as did many of his corporate friends).� In fact the US government and the media was well in support of Apartheid for decades (most notable in their frustration of UN efforts in the 1970s).
It was indeed the International boycott campaign combined with the resistance inside South Africa that made the difference.� History is very clear on that.� But even if one does not coose to believe that, one should treat with respect those who think differently and engage them in positive, respectful dialogue.� If one claims that our goals are similar (like ending the occupation, like peace with justice) but we differ on tactics (e.g. divestments), then that is a dialogue worth having in public and in the open. Who knows maybe we will end-up on the same page. Deriding divestments with a letter to the editor that minimizes the Palestinian catastrophe (comparison to Tibet and Kurdistan) really adds little to furtherance of such dialogue.� You go speak at many venues so I am sure you can suggest that one of these venues open it up for a differing view.
Mazin
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From: "Stuart Elliott" stuart323@s...
Date: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:18 pm
Mazin Qumisyeh, who is appearing at Newton and Wichita in coming days, is a featured speaker at the PSM conference and his Al-Awda group is a sponsor of the Duke conference.
I would think if you are committed to non-violence that condemning terrorism and attacks on civilians would be a no-brainer.
But some who say they are committed to non-violence and "sharing" the land are really committed to the destruction of Israel. Some, like Al-awda, openly express their opposition not only to the roadmap, but also the Geneva Accord and to the grass roots efforts of Israeli and Palestinians for peace. Some, like Adam Shapiro, while pretending to be advocates of non-violence, have explicitly endorsed the use of violence as a legitimage tactic. Some portray themselves as advocates of reconciliation while spreading prejudice and bigotry.
Are those bringing Qumsiyeh to Newton and Wichita naive or are they too opposed not to the policies of the Sharon government, but to the existence of Israel?
Stuart Elliott
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10/6/04
Message from salwazy@yahho.com:
Edward Said was a filthy PIG! It was my pleasure to go to his gravesite in Lebanon and PEE on it!
sent in response to article posted at http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/10258
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6/2/05
Message from "Scheiss Kopf" dumass@nycap.rr.com
Regarding my Counterpunch article on Thinking outside the box published 6/2/05
Your call for a one state solution for Israel is wrong. Most of the Middle East is controlled by fascist Muslim Arab garbage like you or the average Arab who calls himself a Palestinian. Judging by the cesspool countries that Arabs and Muslims run, the Jews would be morons if they let the kind of human garbage that collaborated with the Nazis and tried to destroy them for over a century rule over them. You Arabs are the ultimate barbaric, bigoted fascist pigs, that is why your Palestinians rejoice in murder and your countries are all shitholes. You scumbags might have jerked off the faggot left with your victim song and dance, but anyone who really knows the Arabs, wants no Arabs!
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From: Wendy L. Berelson Berelson@uwyo.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:35 AM
To: joshthompson@mailworks.org; uw-faculty@uwyo.edu; uwstaff-l@uwyo.edu
Subject: UW-fac: Biased "Wheels Of Justice" Tour
Dear University Community,
Before you consider having this group visit your class room you might want to learn a little more about the one sidedness and anti-Israel bias. Please read the excerpt and article below for another opinion on the group. If you do decide to have one of the speakers to your class I suggest you strongly consider having someone there to give alternative perspective.
"Wheels of Justice": A Biased View of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict
"Wheels of Justice," a bus tour which has traveled across the country with a mission to "educate North Americans on the occupation of Palestine and Iraq" since July 2003, has presented a biased, anti-Israel view of the Middle East during hundreds of visits to churches, high schools, libraries and college and university campuses. The tour continues to make appearances around the country while promoting its distinctly one-sided interpretation of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"Mazin Qumsiyeh, a Yale University associate professor and founder of the anti-Israel group Al-Awda, joined Wheels of Justice as a speaker in April 2004. Qumsiyeh has made no attempt to hide his strongly anti-Israel views. As a participant in the Duke University conference, Qumsiyeh called Zionism "a disease." Qumsiyeh also asked audience members, "If apartheid was a problem in South Africa, why do we consider it a solution in Palestine and Israel?" -ADL
http://www.adl.org/main_Israel/wheels_of_justice.htm
Wendy L. Berelson
GIS Research Scientist
Wyoming Geographic Information Science Center
University of Wyoming
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From: Jeff Spiegel rfs4@utah.edu
Sent: Thu, October 13, 2005 8:38 AM
Subject: UofU and terrorist apologist speakers on campus RE: Salt Lake speaking Events Oct 13 and 14
Mazin Qumsiyeh is a terrorist sympathizer and as a student of the University of Utah, I find it deplorable that the university campus is being used by "Wheels of Justice" (Frances ReMillard) to bring such speakers to campus. Academic freedom does not mean supporting hate-mongering speakers who develop conspiracy theories against countries they hate.
Mazin Qumsiyeh wrote in http://qumsiyeh.org/connectingthedotsiraqpalestine/ "Iraq will continue to be a magnet of resistance fighters pouring in from other Arab and Islamic countries as long as Israel is supported in its continued ethnic cleansing of Palestinians..."
Is the Jordanian Abu Musab Al Zarquai merely a "resistance fighter" when he cuts off the heads of civilian workers in Iraq? Are the suicide bombers merely "resistance fighters" when they blow up Shiite/Kurdish and American civilians, policemen and elected government leaders. Why are Arabs killing other Arabs overlooked by Mazin Qumsiyeh in favor of justifying "resistance fighters", Hamas and other terrorist organizations?
As a student of the University of Utah I request a response from the University President and other academic leaders on why they are permitting terrorist sympathizing speakers on campus?
regards,
Jeff Spiegel
Doctoral candidate in Electrical Engineering
University of Utah
RESPONSE TO THIS:
Dear Jeff,
I'm sorry that your are so upset with our speaker, Mazin Qumsiyeh. He is not a conspiracy theorist. He is a good man who believes, (as many of us do), in freedom and human rights for the Palestinian people and a return to all of that wonderful thinking which came out of the barbarism of World War ll and the Holocaust. I'm talking about international law as codified in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the United Nations and the Geneva Conventions.
Jeff, we are the people, who, had we been alive during the Holocaust, would have been doing everything we could to stop it. I'm sorry you can't see or understand that.
Please take me off your address list. I also ask that you take these others off you address list unless they indicate to you that they want to hear from you. I feel you are missusing these addresses.
Sincerely,
Frances ReMillard
Director
Utahns for a Just Peace in the Holy Land
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From: joelsk@comcast.net
Subject: Your web site is nauseating.....
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:21:29 -0400
I could only get through a tiny portion of your website before violently vomitting. Your site is pure propaganda. I hope I can recover my appetite.
Joel K.
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In response to a letter claiming atht any attack on Zionism immediately shuts all prospects of peace. I wrote:
Dear Alan:
Characterizing Zionism for what it is is not the same as making hateful propaganada against Arabs and Palestinians. This is like saying taht those who address Apartheid in South Africa and its leaders as racist discriminatory is equivalent to those whites who viewed blacks as violent slaves and cheap labor to be relegated to bantustans. Being Arab and Palestinian is something organic and is not an ideology or a choice to be compared to Zionism and Zionists!! Being Zionist is a choice just like being a communist or a capitalist or a nazi. To equate the two as both forms of hate speech is disingenious at best.
Now to go back to the topic of Zionism. There is no question that political Zionism is a discriminatory ideology. It says that Jews (including converts) have rights in Palestine to establish a state of immigrants who will be the majority and will run the state as a Jewish state (democratic only if there is guaranteed Jewish majority). This is obviously to the detriment of the native peope since such a program could not be accomplished wthout removing native people (Christians and Muslims). Thus 2/3rd of the Palestinians are refugees or displaced people. If there is a form of political (not cultural) Zionism that is compatible with basic human righst and equality I fail to see it. Can someone here for example point me in teh direction of political Zionists today who support the rights of all Palestinain refugees to return to their homes and lands based on internmational law ad basic human rights (e.g. article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights).
As the Israeli artists declared in 2002: "If the state of Israel aspires to perceive itself as a democracy, it should abandon once and for all, any legal and ideological foundation of religious, ethnic, and demographic discrimination. The state of Israel should strive to become the state of all its citizens. We call for the annulment of all laws that make Israel an apartheid state, including the Jewish law of return in its present form" This is calling for a post-Zionist state (need not be anti-Zionist BTW to support this).
Dear Alan: do you support or oppose this statement of Israeli artists? Do you support the racist ideology that any Jew should have automatic rights to citizenship while Palestinains cannot return because they are not Jewish (ie. Israeli laws)? If you do then you are a political Zionist since that is the core of political Zionism and the acid test of its reality.
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From : Rick Martin Duiker rickdyker@sbcglobal.net
February 21, 2006
Truth is no longer a viable component of political discourse, certainly those manipulating the Bush White House information flow seem to have an on-again, off-again, arms-length dalliance with factual materials. But then propaganda and truth are mutually exclusive factors. Truth, then, must be an essential benchmark for all communications by those who regard themselves as progressives.
The foregoing serves as a prelude for my comments on the Palestinian-Israeli matter.
I've lived history. Over seventy six years I've witnessed this planet's agony over the horrors of constant conflict, year after year of bloodletting on an unimaginable scale; I've seen massive inhumanity, scenes from Dachau, Buchenwald, Darfur and Rwanda that live in my minds eye, and, as an infantryman in Korea I had personal contact with the obscenity of war; I lived through the casual brutality of our great depression and the concurrent dust-bowl; and, finally, I've been confronted by the relatively recent images of bloody fragments of humans torn apart by the unconscionable cruelty of Palestinian suicide bombers.
As most of you know, Palestinian leadership's stated objective is a genocidal war on Israel; they either intend to drive every Jew from Israel or kill those who resist, they say. Since we're dealing with truth, we know this to be fact - the truth. Through their infamous actions, then, and by their words, Arabic peoples of the Holy Land have shown themselves, time and again to be incapable of living in a just, equitable society, or of negotiating an accord with the Israeli population. You can't say 'I'm going to kill you,' to your next door neighbors, then expect them to sit patiently until you act.
As a matter of fact, Arabs have demonstrated a propensity for heinous acts of violence, unimaginably cruel attacks on women, children, and others innocent of aggression against them. Palestinians, who refuse to act in good faith to achieve peace, have gathered their Arab allies to attack Israel on several occasions, failing each time. Their battlefield failures led them to acts of terrorism, the dishonorable last resort for cowards. And yes, suicide bombing is a cowardly act.
As a person of conscience, a liberal who hopes for social justice and equality in America and for all others across the globe, I'm horrified by the actions of my country in Iraq, outraged by administration threats to Iran, Venezuela and other nations, outraged again by anti-environmental activities sanctioned by the Bush league, and again by the concerted effort to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few.
'Justice and equality' elusive qualities totally antithetical to everything I see stemming from Palestinians.
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9/29/06
Hello,
I read the article by Prof.Nurit Peled-Elhanan about the death of children. After reading this article I felt terrible that I am an Israeli.
I am disgusted at my government's handling of the whole situation. I wish that Israel would change and that the first thing would be to arrest and then hang all you traitors and impose the death penalty (without trials) of all Arabs suspected of terrorism or aid and comfort to terrorists.
Arabs can live here, but not as citizens, but as residents. Jewish traitors like you and that son of that Jewish whore Arna Khamis Mer should be shot or expelled from our holy country.
Thank you,
Rabbi Moshe Ben-Hod
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November 8, 2006
From Craig Allen c2c75@hotmail.com
Hello, you cammel-jockey sand nigger. Wow, more bombs in the middle-east???? You mean that all you sand-niggers haven't killed each other yet?? Hmm...how can i help with that?? I am from a rich civilized country with plenty of nuclear weapons i would be more than happy to drop on some Pallestin....umm...errrr...i mean sand jockey camel nigger long nosed devil worshipers.
FUCK YOU
FUCK THAT PIECE OF SHIT WORTHLESS STRIP OF LAND YOU CALL A COUNTRY.
GET MY DRIFT?
STOP SENDING ME WORTHLESS CRY-BABY JEW FUCKIN E-MAILS. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU.I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF YOU WERE ALL GASSED/ AND OR SHOT EXECUTION STYLE.
-Whittie
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The fgollowing was received in response to my posting my article Zionism Keeps Israelis and Palestinians Apart published in the Eagle Tribune
RUBBISH!
JEWS KEEP EVERYONE APART< ESPECIALLY ARABS/PALESTINIANS
JEWS HIDE BEHIND THE VEIL OF THEIR POLITICAL WING< NAMELY ZIONISM and the sooner ARABS REALISE this the better for OUR PEOPLE.
YOU can allow yourself to be fooled by their deception under their Zionist umbrella but I for one won't.
I IDENTIFY WHO OUR REAL ENEMIES ARE , same enemies of the rest of the GENTILE WORLD.
Maybe a tiny percentage, 0.001% are decent moral, ethical, the rest are just Usurers, fraudsters, killers, ALL seeking world domination and DIVINE RULE as per their sick CULT TALMUDIC RITES
THEY EVEN BELIEVE THEY ARE MORE DIVINE THAN OUR CREATOR!! blasphemous arrogant people
THEY are phonies, even the so called friendly 'anti Zionist' Neuterei Karta who have managed to INFILTRATE ARAB and PALESTINIAN GROUPS/ PEACE MOVEMENTS and leading everyone down the wrong path, a path of deception and their control , which is the tool of their trade and tragically too many ARABS FALL FOR THIS PHONEY support and 'concern' for Arabs and their human rights.
JEWS only recognise the RIGHTS of JEWS- PERIOD!
and I am frankly SICK TO DEATH OF PALESTINIANS ALWAYS PROMOTING JEWS on their sites and in their news letters!!
so please spare my their deceptions and nonsense talk of Zionism is Not Judaism!!
THEY HAVE DONE IMMEASURABLE HARM AND DESTRUCTION TO OUR NATIONS so for heaven's sake, WAKE UP
THEIR ALMA MARTA IS "BY WAY OF DECEPTION, THOU SHALT DO WAR" and CONTROL OUR WORLD!
I DON'T BUY THEIR DECEPTION and LIES and false concerns for Humanity which THEY DON"T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT
1/18/07
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From Israel Resource News Agency media@actcom.co.il
Received in response to my posting of Zionist lies: http://www.qumsiyeh.org/liesandtruths/
Dear Mazin Qumsiyeh qumsi001@hotmail.com:
I have been receiving your material for many years and have never responded to you. The time has come for you to recognize ONE Zionist truth.
God gave the land of Israel to our people, the Jewish people.
Yours
David Bedein
July 1, 2007
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Those pictures are just a few of the SICK-O Pictures on the PMW web site. It seems to be in those dark hearts, "we can do to you, but you had better not do it back to us." Feel sorry for the PLO animals or any of those with
TWO-FACES murdering their onw kids a long with others. I believe Islam has
more than proven itself to be a cult of darkness straight from Lucifer
himself. That's my opinion.
12/10/07
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�Open� defamatory letter in the Zionist rag called the �Jerusalem Post�
http://blogs.jpost.com/content/open-letter-mazin-qumsiyeh-stop-fabricating-human-rights-violations
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From: hanna untershats
you arabs are the sons of pigs and monkeys..scum...cowards and losers. It is
YOU who are occupying Jewish land!!! Liars!! We will kick you out.
Followers of Satan and the evil false pedophile prophet. The Jews are your
masters and you are the slaves. Understand?? Pay your respect!! We are not
afraid of you!
Beit Zayit
Jerusalem
30/7/2011
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The Land of Israel, every grain of sand on it, is ours. Parts of it were usurped by nomadic "hamulas" aided by European violent invaders�� (�Palestine�) Non existent entities do not have rights to the Land Of Israel. Register that Professor. Or like we say in the old halls, "put that in your pipe and smoke it". Nomadic Islamic monsters are not welcome here. This is a civilized country not an hell hole like Gaza, Syria, Iraq, Iran... take your pick, every Islamic location is the same. I visited Berlin not long ago and our hosts took us to see the Muslim Quarter and also the so called "Mau-Mau" quarter. Also in Frankfurt. Filthy, ruinous, violent enclaves all. Knowing the Germans well, it will not be long.......The repugnant monstrous Islamic associates of yours burn your fellow Christians alive, massacre them, destroy all other religions when given half a chance. They even shelled two Buddha statues in Afghanistan I believe. Filthy beasts��There will be no more mosques and Korans in Eretz Israel than Synagogues and Old Testaments exist in Saudi Arabia, etc. It is high time to level the playing field.. Game over soon pal.....
SHmuel HaLevi,
Dec. 2013
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